EU Parliament Event - 11th May 2017

Discussion in 'Events' started by Fuserleer, May 11, 2017.

  1. Fuserleer

    Fuserleer Radix Founder Staff Member

    We were invited to this event at the EU Parliament in Brussels.

    I declined to attend personally as I have too much in my schedule..but our COO is in attendance.

    Maybe you can spot him?

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  2. jonas452

    jonas452 Beta Testers

    What was it about? why was radix invited?

    Anyway, is it that guy in the white/blue shirt on the left bottom corner?
  3. Fuserleer

    Fuserleer Radix Founder Staff Member

    Its mainly for the EU to get a room full of smart people to explain why block chain will change the world.

    I guess we were invited because we are classed as a "block chain project"

    Rob is there to educate everyone why a block chain CANT change the world as much as we'd like and why Radix can
  4. jonas452

    jonas452 Beta Testers

    Haha, nice one. I hope he will get a chance to speak.
  5. Fuserleer

    Fuserleer Radix Founder Staff Member

    Well all the EU politicians now know we are arriving according to Mr.rob and have business cards.
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  7. Alfred Duler

    Alfred Duler Beta Testers

    Dan, I'm working in a few professional associations to defend the interests of the business I'm in (cosmetic).
    If you / Rob / Radix need attendance in Brussels someday I'll be glad to help.

    I hope the minutes of this meeting will be available.
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  8. JollyRoger23

    JollyRoger23 Beta Testers

    Dan, telling these bureaucrats with no moral compass you're going to ruin their lucrative fiat money scam sounds like you're painting a big target on your head. How does this benefit the project?
  9. JollyRoger23

    JollyRoger23 Beta Testers

    It's got to be the guy in the green T-shirt.
  10. Donnie

    Donnie Beta Testers

    This can only be a good thing. And just at the right time :)
  11. Alfred Duler

    Alfred Duler Beta Testers

    Well as a Regulatory Affairs Specialist and "lobbyist" myself, this is always benefic and primordial to have such positions.

    It does not mean you conspire with "bureaucrats" as you say, just that you have a communication port open to anticipate, escort, negociate and sometimes conduct any upcoming legal changes that may potentially impact your business area, your firm and most of the time a big part of your users and customers. It gives you a margin to operate soon enought the moves decisions in your economic strategy.

    And sometimes when you're good enought to drive the new market you're the leader in, you can also make propositions taking into account its specificities to protect the users and customers, informing politicians about its profound changes in society and monitor your market shares from illegal competition.

    I'm glad Radix did not close this door, maybe in 50 years it may be used as an European global decentralized banking system to help states raise fair taxes and manage in a best way possible the distribution of wealth with its elastic supply model :) I know, I dream big.
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  12. Fuserleer

    Fuserleer Radix Founder Staff Member

    ^ couldn't have said it better myself.

    It's a strategic play...better to be on the inside and have a shot at influencing things in our favor than be on the outside and be screwed regardless.

    I believe that is worth any "target" on mine or the projects back.
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  13. Anima

    Anima Founders Staff Member

    For crypto to become mainstream, we need to set aside some ideology and instead realise crypto needs to obey the laws of the land. Else it will be outlawed and only used by a select few. Whatever we can do to form the legislature on digital assets, the better the conditions we will likely obtain. Just sitting back and letting the status quo make the rules is a surefire way to keep crypto to the 0.01%.
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  14. Jazzer

    Jazzer The Dutch connection Staff Member

    BTC and companions have made government institutions like the EU aware that things are moving. There's now an atmosphere where words like StartUps, FinTech and BlockChain are legitimate terms in committees and parliaments and what have you. I get the feeling the current best word for government attitude for something like Radix would be 'receptive' rather than 'hostile'. No targets on anyone's back that I'm aware of.

    After all, our goal is not overthrowing government or ending fiat or anything like that. It's to fundamentally improve the way we do online transactions for all parties involved (or at least that's my personal interpretation of it). Public servants can't really be against that. There's no stopping an idea who's time has come and they know it. Banks may be wary of stuff like this as it threatens their business models, but that's another story. They may be able to slow things down temporarily, but you can't stop technological progress.
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  15. JollyRoger23

    JollyRoger23 Beta Testers

    Can you elaborate on this? Are you suggesting states get funds through the Radix supply model? They shouldn't get anything different to what everyone else gets (interest on balances and rewards for node work). There is no such thing as "fair taxes". Tax is provably immoral using ethics. Tax is not voluntary and is taken by force or coercion. Distributing other people's wealth against their will is immoral. How would you like it if I took 1% of your wealth to distribute? How would you like it if I took 90%? No one should get to decide what the "fair" amount to distribute is except the person whose wealth it is. They should be free to give as much or as little as they like to whomever they please.

    Also, what is a "European global decentralized banking system"? Is it European or global? Radix will be a global decentralized monetary system.

    When they see the threat Radix poses to their fiat scam system and demand you stop operating or demand you change Radix to fit their desires, I hope having one or two lobbyists on the inside will make enough of a difference.

    Governments gain a large amount of their power from the fiat banking system. Banks and governments are in bed with each other. Overthrowing this corrupt system and replacing it with a voluntarist society is my goal and a viable free market solution for money is crucial for that to succeed. That is why I invested in Radix. If you just want to improve online transactions there is no need for a complex, decentralized system like Radix to exist.
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  16. Alfred Duler

    Alfred Duler Beta Testers

  17. Peachy

    Peachy Founders Staff Member

    "Tax is provably immoral using ethics. Tax is not voluntary and is taken by force or coercion. Distributing other people's wealth against their will is immoral." -JollyRoger

    I'm always fascinated by those that think on the extreme edge of this philosophy as there can always be an argument for reasons to have "some" taxes. If no taxes (and thus effectively no govt) then how does one solve the issue of non-excludable/non-rival public goods (e.g. asteroid deflection, national defense...etc)?

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  18. JollyRoger23

    JollyRoger23 Beta Testers

    Why did I ask you to elaborate? Because your previous statement (shown again below) doesn't make much sense to me.

  19. JollyRoger23

    JollyRoger23 Beta Testers

    I can think of a few possible solutions. The most obvious one is that they can be funded voluntarily. I don't know which solution is optimum and will work best but that is irrelevant to my original point. When something is unethical, you don't carry on doing it because of a concern around how to achieve X without it. You work something else out. For example, slavery is unethical and should not be practised. When the world began the drive to abolish slavery, there were those making arguments that it would collapse economies. Should we have kept slavery since we weren't sure how economies / certain industries would avoid collapse? No, we should do what is ethical and work out solutions to any new problems that arise. Mechanisation wouldn't have advanced to it's current level without the abolition of slavery. Imagine what could be achieved if we lived in an ethical society!
  20. Peachy

    Peachy Founders Staff Member

    Not sure how Asteroid deflection or National Defense would be considered unethical. ;)
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